Monday, December 05, 2005

Gil fiddles as Slifkin burns.

Three new anti Slifkin letters have surfaced. Most notable to me is the signature of R' Shmuel Kaminetsky on someone else's letter. The deadly insurgency has been crushed. Independent thought in Orthodox Jewry, while sick and gasping for awhile, is now officially dead. Nice post about the U.N. though. What a wonderful sense of humor you have. Hilarious stuff! We can all agree that Dave Barry is the best, but something tells me that he knows nothing about RNS or his problems. Or (some Dan Lkaf Zchut grasping here) was that last one, some clever post equating the U.N. to the Council of Torah Sages? Have you confirmed these letters as authentic? If they are, why not something substantial in his defense? Don't you think it's time to organize some Rabbis to formulate a real response in opposition of this insanity? How about something from your new friends at the RCA?

In other words: AYEKA?

P.S. Just to clarify. I am not angry with Gil. I love Gil. I see him as a figure who can make a difference in this matter and only hope that this post plays whatever small role in getting him to utilize his talents and respond to this insanity. Further defamation of The Gedolim is pointless. We can all agree they have taken care of that on their own. What we need is a real response from respected and qualified leaders and I am hoping Gil with his extensive knowledge of the subject will take up this effort with the appropriate people.

If I may quote a commenter from another Blog:

It is getting embarrassing to identify as Orthodox.
charliehall 12.02.05 - 11:52 am #

Please Gil. Help us all.


At 2:09 PM, Anonymous SephardiLady said...

Where are these new letters?

At 2:23 PM, Blogger The GHassid said...

Letters can be found here:

Hat tip to Krum and GH.

At 3:36 PM, Blogger The Gabbai said...

if they got to r' shmuel kaminetsky, maybe they got to gil too?

At 5:09 PM, Anonymous Josh said...

Nope Gabbai, he's still publishing the books.

At 10:30 AM, Blogger Gil Student said...

I'm still trying to formulate something respectful that hasn't been said before. I'm sick of repeating myself.

I wrote something in my head this morning on the bus. Maybe I'll post it later this week if it still seems respectful to me.

At 11:05 AM, Blogger Gil Student said...

How about something from your new friends at the RCA?

How do you know about that???

At 11:05 AM, Blogger Gil Student said...

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At 1:30 PM, Blogger The GHassid said...

R' Gil,

Don't worry how I know. I know. What's important is that you reach out to them and others to get a formal response to this lynching of RNS. Honestly, how many times can they hang an innocent man and leave Kavod HaTorah to twist in the wind along with him?

At 6:15 PM, Blogger noyra said...


Sunday, December 11, 2005


Rumors on blogs maintain that Rav Hershel Schachter has defended the content of Slifkins writings.

Rabbi Slifkin holds that the notion of "Chava being created from Odom's body " is just an allegory and that she really didn't "make the break"- literally.

following are Slifkins own words ....[ in boldface answering the question below]

[ blogger: Here is an email i received from someone in correpsondence with R Slifkin.... -----]Original Message-----From: [editorial censor of name] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:37 AMTo: zoorabbi@zootorah.comSubject:
"Hello Hello Rabbi Slifkin, I have been looking at your website and read about the "Controversy" and want to ask if acceptance of evolution would also mean that you would accept that Eve didn't literally come from Adam's rib or side- physically and literally? Thanks for your response ahead of time..."

"[ Slifkin:] Dear [ editorial censor of name],

It wouldn't necessarily require that, but I do happen to believe that this is not literal (I think that this is by far one of the cases where it is easy to see that it is meant allegorically).

best wishes,
Natan Slifkin"

Is it even REMOTELY conceivable that Rav Hershel Schachter would say that this was acceptable opinion or that it should be taught...even to baalei teshuvos? I cast my bets "no way ".

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